the third generation cadillac cts-v isthe american gun in the german knife fight you decide what's more attractive it's 640 horsepower superchargedcorvette engine or it sexy good looks on the other side of the spectrum since the all new lexus gs f it'snaturally aspirated engine is unique in this heavily turbo and superchargedsegment speaking of unique check out the gs fsheet metal holy polarizing batman what a time welive in when american and japanese sports sedans are legitimatelychallenging their german rivals but it
wasn't always this way waking the dead yes please give me all you got come on you know if this thing was american itwould have a diff setting for burnout do it i just wasn't my first time this the point showoff
you suck this is amazing i'm glad we're both still 12 yeah well i found a place where lexuscan do a burnout wow oh that is so pretty and i had noidea florida looked like this right i mean i heard about the bugs andhumidity and oh thats not pretty your coy is sick and its grown tires very lovelyshade of putrid orange any way we can look at the cadillac that's gorgeous i gotta say jonny only you couldcome up with a head-to-head with two
cars that have a hundred andseventy-three horsepower difference between the two of them well that's just horsepower have youthought about torque that's why i can't do math over one digit that's like 630torques to 389 or something big big difference big number so explain yourselfplease ah well number one both these sports sedans start at about85 thousand dollars so they have that in common number two have you thought about thecompetition right the kind of midsize luxury performance car
you've got your e class you've got yourfive series you got your audi a6 and currently none of those drive all thatwell true these drive incredible no matter whatengines in them and these are the big dog engines and then of course the thirdreason is the to these might literally of the two worst navigation systems onsale today and without question the two worst inthe premium segment yeah so far it's a perfect head 2 head yeahyeah let's see which is the actual worst navigation system and also figure outwhich is the best drivers car it ok yeah and you have a lizard onour my foot
what is it with florida i what what do iwant to come back here yeah what do i do i want to get a littlelittle soy sauce come on yeah this is a good road car and as heunleashes 640 horsepower down a hill its also a good missile couple gripes of right off the bat you know that's my job that is it firstfirst can i have the first gripe please go thisfriggin seat belt every time it's like it's like having your neurotic jewishgrandmother in the car with you ahh face slow down slow down its stranglinganyway
ok your gripe sir oh you can't decouplethe steering weight from the modes other words maybe i want to be in sport mode andmaybe i don't want you don't have to curl 35 pounds every time i turn thewheel in regular mode it weights are really naturally theother modes feel like like your powers are out of power steering fluid right itagain it's just too heavy yeah unnecessarilyso and i don't know why they did it feel sportier because its heavier but that you knowyou don't always have to do that you can that's like cars that ride crappy insport mode
like you don't need to bounce offthe road to feel like you're a sports car right in fact in fact staying on theroad is very sporty i would say and that's one another thing that this car does really well isthat suspension tuning so it's got magnetorheological dampers it rides welleven in track mode and it's a little stiffer but it's not it's not sort ofknock your teeth out stiff i don't wanna again re-state andstate the obvious but man this is just a great sedan to drive just getting thenitpicking with it like okay it doesn't put the power down as well as it could
well it has so much right yeah but thisis a problem shared with the z06 and i think you just when you get to a certainpower threshold you run out of what rear-wheel-drive cars are capable of unless you go to like a viper acrsolution and have a wing the size of a dining room table bolted to the trunkwhich would be hot right cool no the thing is unlike the z06right so can put its power down but when it steps out it does so smoothlypredictably predictably i like i can't wrap my brain around the fact that thisis the same engine from the z06 because in that car
it sounds well we decided best soundingv8 in production today yeah and this is just sounds like fake inthe car and the raspy outside yeah and not in that musical sexy funny kind ofsaxophony way that the z06 did yeah but look that's a constant problemwhen you take a luxury car and turn it into hot rod is that you still have the bonesof the luxury car sitting there adds weight add insulation even outside well i say that any higher yeahyeah i can't all right but even as mini mouse you got to agree that it it so itsounds better outside than inside strangely my only complaint about thiscar is it's one of these superhero cars
that does everything so well that everytime you look down you're going 95 right and i know what kind of sound likean old man here but there's a certain amount of joy that's missing when youcan't really exercise car on the road without going to jail yeah you can't the other thing i wouldsay that there is a lack of involvement in this car dare i say it not thrilling it's like wowyeah we're just beating this road death remember the old cts was just like themost hysterical like involving a amusing
and you know what i think the realbut why tho that one was so good because it had a thing that the stickand it would like to get and if i'm paid in large sums of money i can not hatean automatic transmission alright sum it up in one word what isthis transmission do lag sucks it's sucks they sold 800,000 or whatevertrucks in the usa year with this transmission i don't need to shift quickly the cts-vhowever does need a shift very quickly and it don't and it don't and its annoying your alwaysgetting like shift deny and when you
know if you got this gorgeous heads up display at redline 6500and if you actually pull the shift at 6,500 forget about it you've alreadybogged okay well want to hit the limiter thetransmission is like i'm offline for the next three seconds right and it goes since the cts has come out i said toeveryone it's a great car same with the ats sure wonderful car don't buy it what don't buy it because q oh yeah at the end of the day we could we canreview these cars dynamically but people
have to live with them right i know i would punch that screen so hardso fast so many times it's dangerous it is you've said it's dangerous i've saidit's dangerous you know cadillac there their whole thing that was dare greatly i'm gonna say dare a little littleless than greatly dare for knobs because what's great about a novice ican be looking down the road and i can do this and the volume goes up and downand i can do this and i can tune the radio station just it works
you don't need to reinvent the wheel ifyour going to reinvent the wheel make it round at least please the cts-v anitthe boomerang antenna crushed velvet booze cruise cadillac you took to yourjunior prom but this is yes folks we track down anhonest-to-goodness 1985 cadillac fleetwood brougham stretch limousine anda new chauffeur skeeves open the sucker up you got to checkout this interior crushed velvet as far as the eye can see oh yeah look at this we got an armrestwe got a bar we got the wood we don't have bacteriaand viruses i wouldn't recommend a
backlight for anywhere here in here don't touch anything except for thephone look at this excuse to you can go ahead and punch ithold on seat belt you don't need a seat belt its a limousine you did just pull up to afigure eight course you realize right that and we're at a 40-degree angle that's not good is that sky or how did your seat belt work nope no no they had different seat belt technology back thenyou know we were talking about luxury in that other car this is luxurious this is very luxurious is thatball joint pops that just happens all we no that was like a case of whiskey in thetruck cool
jesus christ where did we find this guy oh jesus hey skeeves can you pick up the phone sit sit sit back in your seat get backin your seat don't make me come back there i mean not bad for a old bird oh god yeah well you know listen your car'sthat last start drinking now all right i think we're good nicenice audition don't call us we'll call you that's good driving that's good
thank you sir and thanks skeeves two lexus they've gone a differentdirection back to right into the wall all rightwe'll start with this one and it's a little dirty because it's got ninehundred and thirty six thousand miles on it currently when this came out yeah i looked likethe acura legend but like it's a good-looking car look good then it looksgood now by the way 20 years from now it's gonnalook good 20 years now i mean 20 years from now that car is notgoing to look good because it doesn't
look good now that's the problem i mean look this isnothing fancy right now in terms of design it's really good it's got goodproportions simple straight lines it stands the test of time this has enough styling on it first sixcars cars i don't see anything car like this lookslike when they used to give spiders lsd and then watch them weave those crazywebs and lexus was like bam there's the front i mean i just don'tunderstand what i'm looking at
yeah i mean if lexus is trying to say weused to make this type of vehicle and we don't make this type of vehicle anymore we don't do to date luxury we do sedate we do manictorque vectoring or drive sideways that but my big question is how does thisfront-end pass a five mile an hour bumper crash test how easy thegovernment standards are very simple they have to bash the car into a fixedbarrier at five miles an hour and it can't look any uglier than it did before yeah styling and design of a personalthing i don't think it's very pretty yeah butbut i mean the way it goes around the
figure eight i haven't figure eight it yet come on dude in in i mean yeah isn't this good around the figureeight really good right look just try that old ls yeah rightagain we're very hard about the way this car looks because it's it's it's atsunami of vomit but like it drivesbrilliantly around the figure eight and the thing about the figureeight is it is it is one data point you what i love about this test is it'snot just steady state cornering is how
was the car come out of the corner likethat how old is the transition into thebraking zone into cornering into steady state and then back over and over againin both directions it is the single best dynamic measure of a cars abilities this thing nails it that was good look doing here in a closed environmentis one thing but i'm really curious how this thing actually drives on the road why i don't
endless trip because they kick us out ofhere at the end of the day and roads are free you can use whatever you want let's gothat way which way am i going can you set the nav no why not you do it i'm not touching that thing i'm nottouch either so there's a stupid joystick thing right you go to the main menu to try to pickyou know between nine options and the total travel of this joystick is lessthan one inch
this was not developed for the gs f thiswas developed for like the es which is bought by grandmother's who have thepausy you know like it its it's no i lookthey've already gotten rid of it two or one of those horrible situations theyput a track pad which is just as bad because you're like a squiggly it's like a normal mouse ijust figured out i figured out where the texture in that grill came from a strut straight line but ok the car interesting enough the cars bitkinky and i say that because it has a
bsm light on it i've always thought itwas bdsm and apparently lexus has a lack of discipline right there and it'sa light that never i don't know how to make it go away there's no button that controls it don'tworry about there is however a button called asc and that is like auto soundpositioning conditioning and so talk about euphemism right basically they should just call itmaking engine noises but interesting the f again first of all the fact that you can turnit on and off at will
is great right interestingly enoughthis is the loudest actual intake in the world listen the thing then did you try this car and think i want morelet me hit the button i want more noise because this is a naturally aspirated five liter v8 you don't real help yeah wonderful sound it is really goodbig surprises this whole car is that it's so much better than the rc f rightoff the bat i mean i always not even comfortable is bounces all over thatpoor thing that was a frankenstein of a car right the front was off thiscar is off the gs the middle is from the old out of production convertible and therear is out of production car
yeah just go see ya know that was stupidthis thing rides great knowing you could actually rides better than the cadillacshockingly it does land look what what if lexus has a core competency better ridewell that's true yeah but the steering it's in terms ofaccuracy it's almost as good as the cadillac butit's much lighter effort and it's almost if thats aston martin steering this isferrari steering you know how it's got that like ball bearing like light effortbut so good um this is one of those cars are theytook we were talking about with with the the tesla like you can't explain topeople actually how quick a tesla is in
a straight line they just don't believeyou they don't believe you how well thislexus drives it is supple and all the right ways and the noise my big issue is gearing again okay this is an eight-speed automatic lexusalways gears there eight speeds as if they were five so they had like 75 milesan hour and second and then this does 105 miles an hour in third gear so here i am at 50 50 miles an hour ican't really go into second is not much left and i'm going to nail it
waiting waiting right pulling pulling pulling pulling pulling a limiter at 105 they puta torque vectoring diff in this that's not shared with anything else they couldhave chosen a ratio that banks thru the gears why they do this fuel economy i'm sorry if you want a 5-liter v8 inyour midsize sedan and you want to bitch about fuel economy yourself i mean really one gear it does godown the road pretty good good good that was pretty good everyone gets inthis car is like got no torque
this motor got no torque this motor makes ahuge amount of torque it's all neutered by long long longgears but the way this car puts power down and how stable it is yeah you think how much more power thatcts-v had and that that cts-v an order of magnitude faster than thiscar on a straight road and it outbreaks this car and it out grips this carboth by a considerable margin sure and yet this was only a tenth behind onthe figure eight that is a seriously cohesive road carit is the thing is as we always do want tohead 2 head we know how these cars
going down the road we know what they doon a test track how do you think they're gonna do on aracetrack um i'm just gonna pretend i'm on a racetrack right here can i do that i this is a good road car it's so good and that tall skinnygood we hang out with randall he's gonna like driving this one better there he is do you think he just sitshere all week and waits for us it's really weird i did the bigger question is is does he ownreal clothes just wear this funny pajama
now i think he sleeps with that helmetto such a strange hey randy how are ya good to see ya hello friends yeah youremember last year on an ignition episode we had the cts-v oh yeah i lovethe car so we think we have found a even better driving sedan what a color right course we're herefor your professional race track opinion great that's where i live he does livehere it's my happy place i'm gonna wrap let'sgo well sir hello that's a very different experiencefrom the lexus
yeah it's is way more powerful i meanlike the difference between the size of the united states and the size japan oh but the cadillac is more like onepiece all the way around the racetrack its organic if i ask for twenty percentsteering i get twenty percent turning the lexus i can feel and adjusting itself and ienjoy it that back end i think it may be thatdiff turn in and then it just does a little torque vector it does it just likethat and i like it it's great on the road and take skiingon mobile you know it's like hopping
yeah its great i think i think that's why i actually ilike that car better on the road than this one wow i like this one way betteron track because of that directness and the power well here's the thing we knew it wouldbe quicker but the cadillac is almost three seconds a lap quicker than thelexus which is i'm not surprised not surprised we bounced guts i can hear the 14year old trolls from here you you two are fat
you'll be fat to one day if youlive long enough anyway mmm yeah we got to come to theconclusion about this head 2 head and before we get started i want to say it'smuch closer than i think everybody expected you have certainly a lot closerthan i thought it was going to be because both of us felt that on awinding back roads the orange lexus over there was thebetter car to drive yeah that car was really fun when you were caning itmore so than that and then on the highway even though that road betterthat car feels special because it's always in like psycho killer attack mode
the problem with lexus is if you're notin sport or sport plus its kind of asleep and you forget when you'redriving it that you're in this incredibly special performance car whereas with one stab of your right footyou can pass every prius in southern california driving that thing yeah and that's a lot of prius it's alot of fun a lot of fun yeah and then we bring it to the track and make thecadillac wipes the track with them lexus two and a half seconds a lotfaster and we knew that going in but i would i was surprised me was thatrandy said he liked everything about the
cadillac more than the lexus right let'snot forget can you in good faith say that a car which looks like that winsanything um yeah it could win an ugly car contest it could also win a contest of 467horsepower rear-wheel drive v8 powered cars that refused to do burnouts and infact it has the only infotainment system in the world ever to make cadillac qlook intuitive because if that much worse ok so despite the fact that we both likethe gs f quite a bit along winner of this head 2 head is a black cadillac cts-vyep yep dance with me
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hi welcome to a behind the scenesexclusive on the set up yet we've been using these cars all daythey're filthy dusty dirty and we can't really shoot them thatway so right now we got our man ryan prepping both these vehicles for what wecall in the industry a beauty package so on our sets a beauty package consists ofexterior and interior shots of the vehicles so let's take a look at what the shotslook like why don't i have to race randy pobstthis guy is in the freaking sec hall of fame why can't it be racing one of those like14 year old kids on youtube who tells me
mean i can't drive i'm not 14 jonny what's the matter you alright i feel like i saw aghost slow down slow down yeah come on you'rehallucinating just come on triple digit baby
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