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ian whelan: all right. we're rolling, mike. mike spinelli: hey. welcome to "road testament."today we're talking about the 10 collectible cars you need tobuy today because they're going up in value. ian whelan is with us. ian whelan: hey, mike. mike spinelli: usuallybehind the camera.
today he's in front of it. that's today on "roadtestament." [theme music] hey. welcome to "road testament."ian is controlling our screen from here. we are the only onesin the office. @drive on twitter. facebook.com/drivetv.
and we're talking today aboutcollectible cars. so what we did was-- i went through keith martin's"sports car market pocket price guide," whichcame out recently. and they pick-- usually it's big collectorslooking through there, looking at cars that are going uptremendously in value. so your ferraris, your-- what else?
what else is there? are there any cars thatgo up to the millions? your ferraris, your cobras,your all that stuff. but i went through and looked atlower-priced cars that have gone up in price and valuein the last year. ian whelan: so they're a goodstart for collectors. mike spinelli: yes. so a good start forcollectors. cars that you may not think ofwhen you think of collectible
cars, but these are the onesthat we think, based on their predictions, are goingto do really well. ian whelan: and you could stillenjoy these cars now. they're not so expensive thatyou're going to be afraid to put some miles on them andactually drive around and have some fun. mike spinelli: yeah. and in some cases, they're goingto be cars that you're going to need to wrenchon, and in some cases,
maybe they won't be. so cars you can actuallyenjoy. bmw bavaria. so the europeans will be saying,what is a bmw bavaria? ian, you want totake that one? ian whelan: well, it was basedon the bmw 2500 and 2800 that, i guess, we had in the unitedstates and they had in europe. mike spinelli: yeah, one ofthe new 6's that became, eventually, the 5 series.
ian whelan: and our bmw importerextraordinaire, max hoffman, he ordered a specialversion, which had-- i guess it was based on the 2500spec but with the bigger engine from the 2800, so it wassort of a stripper model with a bigger engine,like a hot rod. mike spinelli: yeah,kind of like an american muscle car, right? so he took the lower model. it had the cloth seats.
it had the roll-up windows,and he put the bigger engine in it. it eventually hadthe three liter. so we're talking about '71to '74 being the most collectible. i think they've gone up 8% invalue in the last year. now, it's a car that has beentraditionally not something that anybody wantedto collect. there were a lotof them around.
what do you think? ian whelan: yeah, i think it'sa really stylish-looking car. it's kind of ahead of itstime, in some ways, considering the age of it. the bmws from the '80sstill looked like this, the 828, 5 series. mike spinelli: it's true, andthe interesting thing about bmw is that as bmws are becomingmore complex, and people are starting to look tothe previous generations for a
more stripped-down experience,they're already doing with the e30, the e33 series, which aregoing up tremendously in value and hard to find, if you caneven find a good one, especially an m3. these are kind of gettingthe same effect that's going on with that. but 8% in a year, not bad. we're looking down the road,maybe more than that. ian whelan: why not?
i mean, it's a fun car. so what's next? it's a 911sc. so what's the deal with 911sc,especially a targa? why the hell wouldyou want that? ian whelan: i guess the targais probably the least desirable version, but it'sstill a great-looking car. it's still a 911, and youget wind in your hair. mike spinelli: yeah, and thecool thing about the sc is--
so what's happening, basically,is that now people are looking to the air-cooled911's, and they're all going up in value. obviously, it's the993 versions-- the last air-cooled ones-- thatare going up the most. but the good thing aboutthe scs are-- to clear it up, it's '78to '83, i think, right? so right now, we're looking atthe sc being a generation in which they correcteda lot of things.
ian whelan: it's kindof a sweet spot. it is a sweet spot, because it'sstill inexpensive enough that you might find one from$15,000 to $20,000. i mean, it's not like paperboymoney, but $15,000 to $20,000, you can get most of the thingsthat had been wrong with the 911 before that, with theprevious generation's 2.7-liter engine had problems. in 1975, they galvanized them,the bodies, so they stopped rusting as much.
so the sc corrected a lot ofproblems, and yet they're not as sought after as the carrera3.2's that came later, or the 964's, or the 993's. so you can get into a reallygood 911 for not that much money, and they've gone upabout 6% to 7% in value. and now, 911's have never reallybeen appreciative. so they haven't been cars thatyou buy and get a lot of appreciation out of. they've been holdingtheir value.
but these are actually startingto go up in value. ian whelan: i wonder if they'regoing up a little bit because people around my agemight want to get into a 911, and maybe they're seeing thatthey're good values and putting a little bit ofmoney into these now. mike spinelli: and that thisgeneration was the first one that was kind of consideredbulletproof. ian whelan: and it'skind of still the traditional classic porsche.
it has a really simple interior,so this is still a basic sports car,which is nice. mike spinelli: cool. what do we got next? oh, this is your domain. so you're the saabguy around here. ian whelan: yeah. i've had a few saabsand still do. and i never had a 99, but ialways liked the ems, which
was a great-looking car. mike spinelli: now thisis a '74 ems, right? so the "sports car market priceguide" is looking at the ems as one of the onesthat are going up a little bit in value. what's the ems about? ian whelan: ems stood forelectronic manual special, so it was like the equivalentof the 2002tii. it had fuel injection, but ithad sport suspension, and
faster steering rack, and anicer interior, so it's kind of the sports versionof the 99. of course, this was atime when they were building rally cars. it was closely relatedto their actual rally car at the time. mike spinelli: andthis is just-- i love this generation. i love the 99s.
i think they look amazing, andthey still look up to date. but even more so in going upin value is the turbo-- is the 99 turbo. this is a little newer. that was a '74, and this is-- ian whelan: this is thethree-door version. the other one was the two-doorwith the notch back. it's a little bit newer of acar, and the styling's a little bit different on thefront end, but not very much.
but this was pretty much abreakthrough car for the time. it was a mass-produced,turbo-charged car. there had been someother turbo cars on the market before-- production cars-- butthey just weren't as well-engineered as this andas well thought out. it kind of made the turbo-- honestly, as a real enthusiast'schoice. interestingly, maybe because ofsaabs just going away right
now, that interest in previoussaabs has really heightened at this point. and this one's gone up 7%to 8% since last year. that's not too bad. again, it's about findingone, though. it's about looking aroundand finding one. ian whelan: you've gotto find a nice one. i wonder if the value went up alittle bit since "top gear" did a feature on saab's demise,which was, in my
opinion, not a verygood feature. but they did actually like thiscar, and they featured it quite a bit. mike spinelli: yeah, i mean,the "top gear" effect could definitely be in effect. sunbeam alpine. so the alpine-- there were like three seriesin the middle of the '60s, like between the'50s and '60s.
all of them basically had a 1.5,1.6, 1.7 liter through the series. i've always loved the designof the alpine. now, obviously, it's thealpine's brother with the ford v8 that's the one thatgets all the-- ian whelan: the tiger. mike spinelli: the tigergets all the respect. because, like the cobra, thetiger had a 289 v8 in it. ian whelan: you're not going tobe able to get one of those
for less than $20,000. mike spinelli: no. that's not something you'regoing to [inaudible]. but you could probably pick upan alpine, and actually went up 14% in a year. ian whelan: it's a reallygood-looking car. and, i don't know, it seems likesomething different than all the mg's and triumphs thatyou see, as far as british sports cars go.
mike spinelli: and you canget one for $10,000. remember "dr. no," where bondsteps off the plane in the bahamas and rents one andimmediately gets chased by-- ian whelan: the good old days. i wish i could do that now. mike spinelli: yeah, exactly. ok, what do you got next? so there's britt ekland on herway to rod stewart's house in the triumph tr7.
so this is actuallyan older model. so the tr7 is a car that getsabsolutely no respect, i think, at least amongpeople that i know. but it's actually-- if you get a later modelone, if you go-- when they moved production tocoventry in the later part of the '70s, the build qualityactually was pretty decent. ian whelan: it's nota bad-looking car. when i was a kid, somebody hadone of these near where i
lived, and i thoughtit was really cool. just that wedge shape thing. wedge-shaped cars were coolin the '70s and '80s. mike spinelli: well, it's weird,because it's a real divisive shape. because triumphs were always-- the design was much more fluidand not as much of an axe. ian whelan: this was adeparture from that. mike spinelli: this was kindof a departure from that.
but the later year tr7's-- '79 to '81-- have gone up a decent amount inthe last couple of years. ian whelan: this isa cool photo. mike spinelli: thevolvo p1800. the one, though, that is goingup in value is the 1800s. so i didn't know this, butthe original p1800s were made by jensen. ian whelan: that'sweird, right?
mike spinelli: yeah, volvocontracted with jensen motors in the uk to build it. now jensen, you know, is laterhaving built the jensen interceptor, the british sportscar with the giant mopar 440, or it had the383 at first, and then the 440 after. ian whelan: that's a cool car. mike spinelli: yeah, that wasa hell of a car, but they built this at first.
that's not really theone you want. there were some issues. but the one you want was-- thereason why they called it the 1800s is because the sstands for sweden. and they brought productionto sweden in 1963. and so you want theones post-1963. i mean, 10% year overyear value increase. ian whelan: it's a great-lookingcar. it looks like a concept car orsomething from the time.
it's really cool. mike spinelli: the shapehas really held up. and you can get them-- i've seen them for $5,000to $10,000 all day long. ian whelan: they'renot that fast or anything, but they're cool. mike spinelli: well, that's kindof a recurring theme with all these cars. so if you're looking for thefastest cars you could
collect, this is not going to bethe-- but it's like having a piece of art inyour driveway. ian whelan: i think the slowcar, fast thing applies. mike spinelli: yeah,it applies on basically all these. so karmann ghia. ok, it applies nowhere nearas much as it does here. ian whelan: this isslow car, slow. mike spinelli: this could be--
i mean, the karmann ghia isanother one of those timeless shapes that you have to reallylove it, because you're going to be in it a while. it's going to take you awhile to get places. ian whelan: it willstill turn heads. it'll just turn them veryslowly as you pass. ian whelan: i actually have anold brochure of this car, and it was a vw brochure, and theywere comparing it to, i think, the 356 at the time.
or it might have been an early911, and they were sort of touting it as the poorman's porsche. mike spinelli: thepoor man's 356? ian whelan: i mean, ithas the styling, but that's pretty much it. i've always liked them. it would be something you'd putin your garage and drive once in a while. ian whelan: take your girlfriendout when you don't
want to scare her too much. mike spinelli: but as acollectible, obviously, you want to get the bestones that you can. same rules apply inall collecting. but this one is a reallysuper old one. i think this is, like, a '57. so if you could go to the '50sand get a decent one, you're into big money. but it's the later ones in the'60s, the later part of the
'60s, that there were so manyaround that you can go to california and probably buythree of them for whatever is in your pocket. so why, do you ask, is therea 1978 corvette up here? well, this is the silveranniversary corvette. now, i know what youthink of corvettes. ian whelan: i love corvettes. c3's just not my favorite. mike spinelli: so the c3--
having grown up with the c3, i'msort of partial to them, even though they're probably notthe ones you want to get. at the trough of corvettedom-- 1975-- i think they had140 horsepower. this one-- ok, so if you get the l48,it's 185 horsepower. if you get the optional l82,you're into almost 200 horsepower.
ian whelan: it really needsthose wide tires to keep all that power on the ground. mike spinelli: however, theanniversary model has actually appreciated a decent amountin the last year. and you can get an amazingmint condition one for, like, $12,000. ian whelan: that's something. if you want to get a classiccorvette, that's pretty cool that you could spend that kindof money and get something
that looks like this. it's a cool shape. even though it's not myfavorite corvette, i acknowledge it's a cool-lookingshape. and you certainly aren't goingto get a c2 for that kind of money now. and your probably don'twant an early c4. mike spinelli: that's thething is that with all-- corvettes outside of thissphere, like the '60s--
i mean, they're all goingup in ridiculous jumps. so here's one that you can getin on the ground floor with. i remember when youcould get a 454-- a '72 454 c3 for, like,$5,000 or $6,000. and now you're looking at$30,000 or $40,000. obviously, if you have a burtreynolds fetish of some kind-- and not that he drove one-- butthis reminds me of that era, the whole "gator,""hooper" era. ian whelan: i'm guessing by nowif you wanted to get some
more power out of that engine,there's ways to do it. mike spinelli: there's ways todo it, but then you would-- you really almost wantit to stay as showroom stock as possible. ian whelan: if you'recollecting. mike spinelli: andthat's the thing. if you're collecting it, youkind of want it to be as slow as possible, because that justproves that it's original. ian whelan: it's totallylegit that way.
mike spinelli: exactly. oh, look at this. an actual car. ian whelan: this is a fastcar you can drive fast. mike spinelli: a fast caryou can drive fast. so the mark iv toyotasupra with the 2jz. ian whelan: it's a cool car. i think that car still lookskind of modern now. mike spinelli: now, honestly,i didn't realize that these
things were appreciating. 8% year over year. it makes sense to me, becauseit's getting harder to find a good, clean, original turbo,because of-- we'll call it the "fast and the furious" effect. ian whelan: as explored byour friend, matt farah. matt farah: the internet saysthat all supras have to have 1,000 horsepower. but i've driven a 1,000horsepower supra, and let me
tell you what most people won'ttell you about a 1,000 horsepower supra. it sucks as a street car. mike spinelli: yes, matt farahso eloquently put it. if you can find one, i wouldsay it's a very good investment. and, actually, the pricesare bearing that out. ian whelan: when i was in highschool, this was the most amazing car.
320 horsepower. i mean, that was when 300horsepower was like, oh my god, 320 horsepower. that's significant. ian whelan: thiswas high tech. twin turbo. had what i thought atthe time was a cool, big wing on the back. it's part of the charm,i guess, now.
mike spinelli: so, interestinglyenough, this is the one that's going up invalue, because this is obviously the most sought after,the hardest to find. but if you do find one-- this one, actually, i think,has a lot of really serious upside potential. if you can get a really goodone, i think you'll double your money in 10 years. in car collecting years,actually, it's like two.
ian whelan: all these cars havea lot of potential to do really well and double moneybecause they're not worth that much yet. once you get higher end cars,it's harder to do that. mike spinelli: again, theproblem with this is sort of the opposite problem of buyinga british car, where the engine is just so complexthat, eventually-- probably it's not too hard tofind parts, and you can find manuals and stuff online, andthere are plenty of super
enthusiast forums and stuff youcould find out how to work on that motor. but it's a complex motor-- oh, sorry, engine. obviously, people hate when wesay "motor." anyway, what do we got next? so this one-- the triumph spitfire. i had no idea the triumphspitfire, from--
i think it's like '62 to '70-- this is a '68. went up 28%. 38%. i misspoke. ian whelan: that'spretty amazing. mike spinelli: thatis pretty amazing. ian whelan: get one ofthese while you can. mike spinelli: so it probablywent up from what, like,
$3,000 to $4,500 or something. ian whelan: that's stillpretty good. mike spinelli: that's not bad. so somehow, there is a run on'60s-era triumph spitfires. so you should probablyget in on one. i just think, honestly,that the spitfire is-- it's my second-favoritetriumph, but i love this design. i mean, just this kink and theway that the fenders and the https://goo.gl/hLJVLR
quarter panels-- ian whelan: the long hood. mike spinelli: --cometogether. the long hood. again, i think this all comesdown to how many are left. so that's it for "roadtestament" today. we want to know when you thinkare the best collectible cars. what car would you buy right nowif you could and you were looking down the roadto collect it?
ian whelan-- i'm not asking you. i'm asking them. facebook.com/drivetv. and we'll see you next week. later. now you've got to get up andturn the camera off. want me to do it? ian whelan: no, i've got it.
today he's in front of it. that's today on "roadtestament." [theme music] hey. welcome to "road testament."ian is controlling our screen from here. we are the only onesin the office. @drive on twitter. facebook.com/drivetv.
and we're talking today aboutcollectible cars. so what we did was-- i went through keith martin's"sports car market pocket price guide," whichcame out recently. and they pick-- usually it's big collectorslooking through there, looking at cars that are going uptremendously in value. so your ferraris, your-- what else?
what else is there? are there any cars thatgo up to the millions? your ferraris, your cobras,your all that stuff. but i went through and looked atlower-priced cars that have gone up in price and valuein the last year. ian whelan: so they're a goodstart for collectors. mike spinelli: yes. so a good start forcollectors. cars that you may not think ofwhen you think of collectible
cars, but these are the onesthat we think, based on their predictions, are goingto do really well. ian whelan: and you could stillenjoy these cars now. they're not so expensive thatyou're going to be afraid to put some miles on them andactually drive around and have some fun. mike spinelli: yeah. and in some cases, they're goingto be cars that you're going to need to wrenchon, and in some cases,
maybe they won't be. so cars you can actuallyenjoy. bmw bavaria. so the europeans will be saying,what is a bmw bavaria? ian, you want totake that one? ian whelan: well, it was basedon the bmw 2500 and 2800 that, i guess, we had in the unitedstates and they had in europe. mike spinelli: yeah, one ofthe new 6's that became, eventually, the 5 series.
ian whelan: and our bmw importerextraordinaire, max hoffman, he ordered a specialversion, which had-- i guess it was based on the 2500spec but with the bigger engine from the 2800, so it wassort of a stripper model with a bigger engine,like a hot rod. mike spinelli: yeah,kind of like an american muscle car, right? so he took the lower model. it had the cloth seats.
it had the roll-up windows,and he put the bigger engine in it. it eventually hadthe three liter. so we're talking about '71to '74 being the most collectible. i think they've gone up 8% invalue in the last year. now, it's a car that has beentraditionally not something that anybody wantedto collect. there were a lotof them around.
what do you think? ian whelan: yeah, i think it'sa really stylish-looking car. it's kind of ahead of itstime, in some ways, considering the age of it. the bmws from the '80sstill looked like this, the 828, 5 series. mike spinelli: it's true, andthe interesting thing about bmw is that as bmws are becomingmore complex, and people are starting to look tothe previous generations for a
more stripped-down experience,they're already doing with the e30, the e33 series, which aregoing up tremendously in value and hard to find, if you caneven find a good one, especially an m3. these are kind of gettingthe same effect that's going on with that. but 8% in a year, not bad. we're looking down the road,maybe more than that. ian whelan: why not?
i mean, it's a fun car. so what's next? it's a 911sc. so what's the deal with 911sc,especially a targa? why the hell wouldyou want that? ian whelan: i guess the targais probably the least desirable version, but it'sstill a great-looking car. it's still a 911, and youget wind in your hair. mike spinelli: yeah, and thecool thing about the sc is--
so what's happening, basically,is that now people are looking to the air-cooled911's, and they're all going up in value. obviously, it's the993 versions-- the last air-cooled ones-- thatare going up the most. but the good thing aboutthe scs are-- to clear it up, it's '78to '83, i think, right? so right now, we're looking atthe sc being a generation in which they correcteda lot of things.
ian whelan: it's kindof a sweet spot. it is a sweet spot, because it'sstill inexpensive enough that you might find one from$15,000 to $20,000. i mean, it's not like paperboymoney, but $15,000 to $20,000, you can get most of the thingsthat had been wrong with the 911 before that, with theprevious generation's 2.7-liter engine had problems. in 1975, they galvanized them,the bodies, so they stopped rusting as much.
so the sc corrected a lot ofproblems, and yet they're not as sought after as the carrera3.2's that came later, or the 964's, or the 993's. so you can get into a reallygood 911 for not that much money, and they've gone upabout 6% to 7% in value. and now, 911's have never reallybeen appreciative. so they haven't been cars thatyou buy and get a lot of appreciation out of. they've been holdingtheir value.
but these are actually startingto go up in value. ian whelan: i wonder if they'regoing up a little bit because people around my agemight want to get into a 911, and maybe they're seeing thatthey're good values and putting a little bit ofmoney into these now. mike spinelli: and that thisgeneration was the first one that was kind of consideredbulletproof. ian whelan: and it'skind of still the traditional classic porsche.
it has a really simple interior,so this is still a basic sports car,which is nice. mike spinelli: cool. what do we got next? oh, this is your domain. so you're the saabguy around here. ian whelan: yeah. i've had a few saabsand still do. and i never had a 99, but ialways liked the ems, which
was a great-looking car. mike spinelli: now thisis a '74 ems, right? so the "sports car market priceguide" is looking at the ems as one of the onesthat are going up a little bit in value. what's the ems about? ian whelan: ems stood forelectronic manual special, so it was like the equivalentof the 2002tii. it had fuel injection, but ithad sport suspension, and
faster steering rack, and anicer interior, so it's kind of the sports versionof the 99. of course, this was atime when they were building rally cars. it was closely relatedto their actual rally car at the time. mike spinelli: andthis is just-- i love this generation. i love the 99s.
i think they look amazing, andthey still look up to date. but even more so in going upin value is the turbo-- is the 99 turbo. this is a little newer. that was a '74, and this is-- ian whelan: this is thethree-door version. the other one was the two-doorwith the notch back. it's a little bit newer of acar, and the styling's a little bit different on thefront end, but not very much.
but this was pretty much abreakthrough car for the time. it was a mass-produced,turbo-charged car. there had been someother turbo cars on the market before-- production cars-- butthey just weren't as well-engineered as this andas well thought out. it kind of made the turbo-- honestly, as a real enthusiast'schoice. interestingly, maybe because ofsaabs just going away right
now, that interest in previoussaabs has really heightened at this point. and this one's gone up 7%to 8% since last year. that's not too bad. again, it's about findingone, though. it's about looking aroundand finding one. ian whelan: you've gotto find a nice one. i wonder if the value went up alittle bit since "top gear" did a feature on saab's demise,which was, in my
opinion, not a verygood feature. but they did actually like thiscar, and they featured it quite a bit. mike spinelli: yeah, i mean,the "top gear" effect could definitely be in effect. sunbeam alpine. so the alpine-- there were like three seriesin the middle of the '60s, like between the'50s and '60s.
all of them basically had a 1.5,1.6, 1.7 liter through the series. i've always loved the designof the alpine. now, obviously, it's thealpine's brother with the ford v8 that's the one thatgets all the-- ian whelan: the tiger. mike spinelli: the tigergets all the respect. because, like the cobra, thetiger had a 289 v8 in it. ian whelan: you're not going tobe able to get one of those
for less than $20,000. mike spinelli: no. that's not something you'regoing to [inaudible]. but you could probably pick upan alpine, and actually went up 14% in a year. ian whelan: it's a reallygood-looking car. and, i don't know, it seems likesomething different than all the mg's and triumphs thatyou see, as far as british sports cars go.
mike spinelli: and you canget one for $10,000. remember "dr. no," where bondsteps off the plane in the bahamas and rents one andimmediately gets chased by-- ian whelan: the good old days. i wish i could do that now. mike spinelli: yeah, exactly. ok, what do you got next? so there's britt ekland on herway to rod stewart's house in the triumph tr7.
so this is actuallyan older model. so the tr7 is a car that getsabsolutely no respect, i think, at least amongpeople that i know. but it's actually-- if you get a later modelone, if you go-- when they moved production tocoventry in the later part of the '70s, the build qualityactually was pretty decent. ian whelan: it's nota bad-looking car. when i was a kid, somebody hadone of these near where i
lived, and i thoughtit was really cool. just that wedge shape thing. wedge-shaped cars were coolin the '70s and '80s. mike spinelli: well, it's weird,because it's a real divisive shape. because triumphs were always-- the design was much more fluidand not as much of an axe. ian whelan: this was adeparture from that. mike spinelli: this was kindof a departure from that.
but the later year tr7's-- '79 to '81-- have gone up a decent amount inthe last couple of years. ian whelan: this isa cool photo. mike spinelli: thevolvo p1800. the one, though, that is goingup in value is the 1800s. so i didn't know this, butthe original p1800s were made by jensen. ian whelan: that'sweird, right?
mike spinelli: yeah, volvocontracted with jensen motors in the uk to build it. now jensen, you know, is laterhaving built the jensen interceptor, the british sportscar with the giant mopar 440, or it had the383 at first, and then the 440 after. ian whelan: that's a cool car. mike spinelli: yeah, that wasa hell of a car, but they built this at first.
that's not really theone you want. there were some issues. but the one you want was-- thereason why they called it the 1800s is because the sstands for sweden. and they brought productionto sweden in 1963. and so you want theones post-1963. i mean, 10% year overyear value increase. ian whelan: it's a great-lookingcar. it looks like a concept car orsomething from the time.
it's really cool. mike spinelli: the shapehas really held up. and you can get them-- i've seen them for $5,000to $10,000 all day long. ian whelan: they'renot that fast or anything, but they're cool. mike spinelli: well, that's kindof a recurring theme with all these cars. so if you're looking for thefastest cars you could
collect, this is not going to bethe-- but it's like having a piece of art inyour driveway. ian whelan: i think the slowcar, fast thing applies. mike spinelli: yeah,it applies on basically all these. so karmann ghia. ok, it applies nowhere nearas much as it does here. ian whelan: this isslow car, slow. mike spinelli: this could be--
i mean, the karmann ghia isanother one of those timeless shapes that you have to reallylove it, because you're going to be in it a while. it's going to take you awhile to get places. ian whelan: it willstill turn heads. it'll just turn them veryslowly as you pass. ian whelan: i actually have anold brochure of this car, and it was a vw brochure, and theywere comparing it to, i think, the 356 at the time.
or it might have been an early911, and they were sort of touting it as the poorman's porsche. mike spinelli: thepoor man's 356? ian whelan: i mean, ithas the styling, but that's pretty much it. i've always liked them. it would be something you'd putin your garage and drive once in a while. ian whelan: take your girlfriendout when you don't
want to scare her too much. mike spinelli: but as acollectible, obviously, you want to get the bestones that you can. same rules apply inall collecting. but this one is a reallysuper old one. i think this is, like, a '57. so if you could go to the '50sand get a decent one, you're into big money. but it's the later ones in the'60s, the later part of the
'60s, that there were so manyaround that you can go to california and probably buythree of them for whatever is in your pocket. so why, do you ask, is therea 1978 corvette up here? well, this is the silveranniversary corvette. now, i know what youthink of corvettes. ian whelan: i love corvettes. c3's just not my favorite. mike spinelli: so the c3--
having grown up with the c3, i'msort of partial to them, even though they're probably notthe ones you want to get. at the trough of corvettedom-- 1975-- i think they had140 horsepower. this one-- ok, so if you get the l48,it's 185 horsepower. if you get the optional l82,you're into almost 200 horsepower.
ian whelan: it really needsthose wide tires to keep all that power on the ground. mike spinelli: however, theanniversary model has actually appreciated a decent amountin the last year. and you can get an amazingmint condition one for, like, $12,000. ian whelan: that's something. if you want to get a classiccorvette, that's pretty cool that you could spend that kindof money and get something
that looks like this. it's a cool shape. even though it's not myfavorite corvette, i acknowledge it's a cool-lookingshape. and you certainly aren't goingto get a c2 for that kind of money now. and your probably don'twant an early c4. mike spinelli: that's thething is that with all-- corvettes outside of thissphere, like the '60s--
i mean, they're all goingup in ridiculous jumps. so here's one that you can getin on the ground floor with. i remember when youcould get a 454-- a '72 454 c3 for, like,$5,000 or $6,000. and now you're looking at$30,000 or $40,000. obviously, if you have a burtreynolds fetish of some kind-- and not that he drove one-- butthis reminds me of that era, the whole "gator,""hooper" era. ian whelan: i'm guessing by nowif you wanted to get some
more power out of that engine,there's ways to do it. mike spinelli: there's ways todo it, but then you would-- you really almost wantit to stay as showroom stock as possible. ian whelan: if you'recollecting. mike spinelli: andthat's the thing. if you're collecting it, youkind of want it to be as slow as possible, because that justproves that it's original. ian whelan: it's totallylegit that way.
mike spinelli: exactly. oh, look at this. an actual car. ian whelan: this is a fastcar you can drive fast. mike spinelli: a fast caryou can drive fast. so the mark iv toyotasupra with the 2jz. ian whelan: it's a cool car. i think that car still lookskind of modern now. mike spinelli: now, honestly,i didn't realize that these
things were appreciating. 8% year over year. it makes sense to me, becauseit's getting harder to find a good, clean, original turbo,because of-- we'll call it the "fast and the furious" effect. ian whelan: as explored byour friend, matt farah. matt farah: the internet saysthat all supras have to have 1,000 horsepower. but i've driven a 1,000horsepower supra, and let me
tell you what most people won'ttell you about a 1,000 horsepower supra. it sucks as a street car. mike spinelli: yes, matt farahso eloquently put it. if you can find one, i wouldsay it's a very good investment. and, actually, the pricesare bearing that out. ian whelan: when i was in highschool, this was the most amazing car.
320 horsepower. i mean, that was when 300horsepower was like, oh my god, 320 horsepower. that's significant. ian whelan: thiswas high tech. twin turbo. had what i thought atthe time was a cool, big wing on the back. it's part of the charm,i guess, now.
mike spinelli: so, interestinglyenough, this is the one that's going up invalue, because this is obviously the most sought after,the hardest to find. but if you do find one-- this one, actually, i think,has a lot of really serious upside potential. if you can get a really goodone, i think you'll double your money in 10 years. in car collecting years,actually, it's like two.
ian whelan: all these cars havea lot of potential to do really well and double moneybecause they're not worth that much yet. once you get higher end cars,it's harder to do that. mike spinelli: again, theproblem with this is sort of the opposite problem of buyinga british car, where the engine is just so complexthat, eventually-- probably it's not too hard tofind parts, and you can find manuals and stuff online, andthere are plenty of super
enthusiast forums and stuff youcould find out how to work on that motor. but it's a complex motor-- oh, sorry, engine. obviously, people hate when wesay "motor." anyway, what do we got next? so this one-- the triumph spitfire. i had no idea the triumphspitfire, from--
i think it's like '62 to '70-- this is a '68. went up 28%. 38%. i misspoke. ian whelan: that'spretty amazing. mike spinelli: thatis pretty amazing. ian whelan: get one ofthese while you can. mike spinelli: so it probablywent up from what, like,
$3,000 to $4,500 or something. ian whelan: that's stillpretty good. mike spinelli: that's not bad. so somehow, there is a run on'60s-era triumph spitfires. so you should probablyget in on one. i just think, honestly,that the spitfire is-- it's my second-favoritetriumph, but i love this design. i mean, just this kink and theway that the fenders and the https://goo.gl/hLJVLR
quarter panels-- ian whelan: the long hood. mike spinelli: --cometogether. the long hood. again, i think this all comesdown to how many are left. so that's it for "roadtestament" today. we want to know when you thinkare the best collectible cars. what car would you buy right nowif you could and you were looking down the roadto collect it?
ian whelan-- i'm not asking you. i'm asking them. facebook.com/drivetv. and we'll see you next week. later. now you've got to get up andturn the camera off. want me to do it? ian whelan: no, i've got it.
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